Comments on: Dealing with Undercutters – Deep Undercutting and AH Camping in WoW http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/ Analysis and Discussion of Making Gold in World of Warcraft Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:15:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Khtus http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-22800 Khtus Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:05:55 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-22800 Ok im confused for 3 reasons, 1. if u priced ur glyphs so low then wouldnt ur competetors just buy the glyphs and then sell them at their price because they bought their really cheap competition? 2.wouldnt they just show up again as soon as u try to raise the prices and then undercut u? because it doesnt make sense that they would give up altogether for a few days, and 3. how did u gradually increase the prices? it looks like u did it abruptly Ok im confused for 3 reasons, 1. if u priced ur glyphs so low then wouldnt ur competetors just buy the glyphs and then sell them at their price because they bought their really cheap competition? 2.wouldnt they just show up again as soon as u try to raise the prices and then undercut u? because it doesnt make sense that they would give up altogether for a few days, and 3. how did u gradually increase the prices? it looks like u did it abruptly

]]> By: Glyph http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-21362 Glyph Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:15:45 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-21362 There is a method to eliminate any and all glyph competition. But it requires trade partners and/or multiple accounts. I currently own horde and alliance glyph markets using this method and rake in no less than forty thousand a week. This is with roughly 4-8 persistent competitors trying to scrape the bottom for whatever is left. There is a method to eliminate any and all glyph competition. But it requires trade partners and/or multiple accounts.

I currently own horde and alliance glyph markets using this method and rake in no less than forty thousand a week. This is with roughly 4-8 persistent competitors trying to scrape the bottom for whatever is left.

]]> By: Evgeny http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-13108 Evgeny Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:14:50 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-13108 On my server there are also several people undercutting each other, me included I guess. One important thing that I do, is I selected the glyphs that are dirt cheap (probably because you learn them at level 5 or something) -- and these glyphs that I already bought-off (stupidly) and have a couple of stacks of each, I will undercut them to the ground. I mean to the 1s/glyph price. Hopefully this will prevent wannabies profiting from their early glyphs, also it looks like no one is buying them at all for some reason. I have a feeling that my collegues in the business are doing the exact same thing. Only from time to time I would see one of these highly stacked glyphs rise to the 20g mark for some reason. I post them up to 4 glyphs, so I can easily distinguish them in the posting log and the summary window of QA3. And their threshold is also about half of the other glyphs I usually trade. On my server there are also several people undercutting each other, me included I guess.
One important thing that I do, is I selected the glyphs that are dirt cheap (probably because you learn them at level 5 or something) — and these glyphs that I already bought-off (stupidly) and have a couple of stacks of each, I will undercut them to the ground. I mean to the 1s/glyph price. Hopefully this will prevent wannabies profiting from their early glyphs, also it looks like no one is buying them at all for some reason.

I have a feeling that my collegues in the business are doing the exact same thing. Only from time to time I would see one of these highly stacked glyphs rise to the 20g mark for some reason.

I post them up to 4 glyphs, so I can easily distinguish them in the posting log and the summary window of QA3. And their threshold is also about half of the other glyphs I usually trade.

]]> By: Tankian http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-13043 Tankian Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:35:25 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-13043 And by the way, what do I do when people have auctions for like 2g each... Should I undercut that as well? And by the way, what do I do when people have auctions for like 2g each…
Should I undercut that as well?

]]> By: Tankian http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-13041 Tankian Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:28:17 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-13041 I'm confused at this part.... "my fallback price was 30g, if ANYONE undercut one of these auctions by even 1 copper I’d undercut immediately right down to 3g (x3 posted)" How do you set Quick Auctions so that if you are undercut you will post again as 3g. Because I set my fallback at 3g and then checked auto fallback so I always post 3g when the price is below my threshold ( 4g ) it will be posted as 3g. But then when the lowest price on a glyph is lets say 4.75g, it automatically posts my auctions as 4g, might be because of my threshold being 4g. Anyway how can I fix this, and how do you undercut down to 3g with Quick Auctions? It seems hard to explain but I am saying that all my auction up right now are 3g or 4g and thats probably a problem. Anyway overall good guide :) I’m confused at this part….

“my fallback price was 30g, if ANYONE undercut one of these auctions by even 1 copper I’d undercut immediately right down to 3g (x3 posted)”

How do you set Quick Auctions so that if you are undercut you will post again as 3g.

Because I set my fallback at 3g and then checked auto fallback so I always post 3g when the price is below my threshold ( 4g ) it will be posted as 3g.

But then when the lowest price on a glyph is lets say 4.75g, it automatically posts my auctions as 4g, might be because of my threshold being 4g.

Anyway how can I fix this, and how do you undercut down to 3g with Quick Auctions? It seems hard to explain but I am saying that all my auction up right now are 3g or 4g and thats probably a problem.

Anyway overall good guide :)

]]> By: Kraklin http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-13017 Kraklin Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:53:10 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-13017 Gevlons tactic was to post once every 48 hours and deeply undercut which would make a new average price. However if he posted his glyphs and then just waited for another 48 hours, he wouldn't have had any sales if someone else undercut him (especially since people do this within 20 minutes usually) This method posting here is to ensure maximum amount of sales at your minimum accepted profit amount or to not post at all if it's below that (since the time to make the glyphs/post would be a waste for the amount of gold return) Gevlons tactic was to post once every 48 hours and deeply undercut which would make a new average price. However if he posted his glyphs and then just waited for another 48 hours, he wouldn’t have had any sales if someone else undercut him (especially since people do this within 20 minutes usually)

This method posting here is to ensure maximum amount of sales at your minimum accepted profit amount or to not post at all if it’s below that (since the time to make the glyphs/post would be a waste for the amount of gold return)

]]> By: Archi http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-13010 Archi Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:10:30 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-13010 Just read this one again. Don't take it personally but this is about the same Gevlon said on his site. What he didn't say , but one of your commentators said is : resources (money/time/herbs) is main factor in this war. On some servers it's impossible to fight real giants. Too bad there is no government (Blizzard doesn't care and we can't vote them away - only option is to leave WOW) like in RL that regulates markets. Just read this one again. Don’t take it personally but this is about the same Gevlon said on his site.

What he didn’t say , but one of your commentators said is : resources (money/time/herbs) is main factor in this war. On some servers it’s impossible to fight real giants. Too bad there is no government (Blizzard doesn’t care and we can’t vote them away – only option is to leave WOW) like in RL that regulates markets.

]]> By: Dennild http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-12226 Dennild Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:27:58 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-12226 very good Guide but when the prices is at 1-3g all the time wth are you suposed to do then? very good Guide but when the prices is at 1-3g all the time wth are you suposed to do then?

]]> By: Kaz'rogal http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-11366 Kaz'rogal Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:17:58 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-11366 Makes you think, doesn't it? The market is a living being itself, in a way. There are people who accept the prices...and there are those who BEND the prices. Think about that for a minute. Nice tips mate. ;) Makes you think, doesn’t it? The market is a living being itself, in a way. There are people who accept the prices…and there are those who BEND the prices. Think about that for a minute. Nice tips mate. ;)

]]> By: Zaxxyz http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/dealing-with-undercutters-deep-undercutting-and-ah-camping-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-9899 Zaxxyz Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:11:27 +0000 http://www.wowconfidential.com/?p=543#comment-9899 Undercutting up till 1g not smart? Let's make things clear : i you drive them to 1g/glyph it means they meet pple like you very rarely; it also means that you got enough resources(money/inks/herbs) to make a threat for them. BUT you also make a risk that they will loose their 10k/day. So it comes to simple war in which only 2 things matter: your resources vs their(his/her)-> and they have A LOT of them (probably full bank of inks and 100k-... gold) So, yeah, basically you cant do anything except if you attack with many or do it constantly (with many pple (=casuals)) so your total resources > their Undercutting up till 1g not smart?

Let’s make things clear : i you drive them to 1g/glyph it means they meet pple like you very rarely; it also means that you got enough resources(money/inks/herbs) to make a threat for them.

BUT you also make a risk that they will loose their 10k/day.

So it comes to simple war in which only 2 things matter: your resources vs their(his/her)-> and they have A LOT of them (probably full bank of inks and 100k-… gold)

So, yeah, basically you cant do anything except if you attack with many or do it constantly (with many pple (=casuals)) so your total resources > their

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