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		<title>By: Trork</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/my-daily-gold-making-routine-in-wow-3-3-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13400</link>
		<dc:creator>Trork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have gotten my pc back the day before yesterday, took me one day to download and install wow again, had to readjust my UI and addons while tanking ICC for my guild (they didnt raid while I was away, we lack tanks lol).
So after all this, I went to check my glyph banker/vendor. Had around 1.8k gold there in the mail box, and many unsold glyphs [keep in mind I spent around 750g on herbs]. I then posted them all back again, still not using the addons you have suggested because of lack of time (coffee trading takes most of my day, leaving me ~4 hours to raid and play).
While I have been at work, and there have been down times (market is kind of slow now), I have been using www.logmein.com to remotelly access my computer at home, check the AH and buy cheap herbs, and let them accomulate and mill them while waiting for boss pulls.
I have also been trying to control the &quot;Book of Glyph Mastery&quot; market. Since I did not have all glyphs yet, I decided to buy-out all the books in the AH (they were selling on a average of 20g a book) there were around 30-40 of them. I used half of them to learn new glyphs, the other half, I posted back on the AH at around 45g (roughly 210% higher) - and yes, they have been selling at this price. Of course people have been undercutting me, I have just been buying them and posting them back, or learning. So yeah, I am slowly learning all the glyphs, while making some gold out of it.
The weekend came, and I have now started following your suggestions and learning how to use the addons. On friday I used the KTQ and set it to make 5 of each glyph, I used maybe 120-200 stacks of herbs to start it off [I wish I had a bird that would press my mill button]. I set my Quick Auctions3 to make all the glyphs that would give me 10g profit and set the value of herbs at 1g20s, so I wouldn&#039;t have to make a huge ammount of glyphs at first (it was still an enormous quantity). Well, after making them all, creating a toon with special leters so competition wouldnt add me to firnd list, and buying him all the Inscription bags, I started posting the auctions with QA3. Next morning I wake up to see how it went, and had 4k gold in the mailbox! It actually exceeded my expectations.
I found a guildmate to sell me all his Tiger lilly&#039;s, Goldclovers and Dreadnettles for 10g a stack!(he farms other herbs to make pots and wont use those), and he will send me daily around 36 stacks. Well, with this great oportunity, I kept on making glyphs, was selling alot, but was also getting undercut very often, every 4 hours or so I would be undercut on around 750-1000 auctions (very annoying, but where theres money, theres competition).
Anyways, I know it is still early to trust the average daily income from the statistics page, but it show me to be making 10k gold a day, thanks for all your info and help into making this possible :)
Unfortunatelly I have a great project going on IRL, and will have to take a break from glyph making till this is done, I will be back in business very shortly though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have gotten my pc back the day before yesterday, took me one day to download and install wow again, had to readjust my UI and addons while tanking ICC for my guild (they didnt raid while I was away, we lack tanks lol).</p>
<p>So after all this, I went to check my glyph banker/vendor. Had around 1.8k gold there in the mail box, and many unsold glyphs [keep in mind I spent around 750g on herbs]. I then posted them all back again, still not using the addons you have suggested because of lack of time (coffee trading takes most of my day, leaving me ~4 hours to raid and play).</p>
<p>While I have been at work, and there have been down times (market is kind of slow now), I have been using <a href="http://www.logmein.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.logmein.com</a> to remotelly access my computer at home, check the AH and buy cheap herbs, and let them accomulate and mill them while waiting for boss pulls.</p>
<p>I have also been trying to control the &#8220;Book of Glyph Mastery&#8221; market. Since I did not have all glyphs yet, I decided to buy-out all the books in the AH (they were selling on a average of 20g a book) there were around 30-40 of them. I used half of them to learn new glyphs, the other half, I posted back on the AH at around 45g (roughly 210% higher) &#8211; and yes, they have been selling at this price. Of course people have been undercutting me, I have just been buying them and posting them back, or learning. So yeah, I am slowly learning all the glyphs, while making some gold out of it.</p>
<p>The weekend came, and I have now started following your suggestions and learning how to use the addons. On friday I used the KTQ and set it to make 5 of each glyph, I used maybe 120-200 stacks of herbs to start it off [I wish I had a bird that would press my mill button]. I set my Quick Auctions3 to make all the glyphs that would give me 10g profit and set the value of herbs at 1g20s, so I wouldn&#8217;t have to make a huge ammount of glyphs at first (it was still an enormous quantity). Well, after making them all, creating a toon with special leters so competition wouldnt add me to firnd list, and buying him all the Inscription bags, I started posting the auctions with QA3. Next morning I wake up to see how it went, and had 4k gold in the mailbox! It actually exceeded my expectations.</p>
<p>I found a guildmate to sell me all his Tiger lilly&#8217;s, Goldclovers and Dreadnettles for 10g a stack!(he farms other herbs to make pots and wont use those), and he will send me daily around 36 stacks. Well, with this great oportunity, I kept on making glyphs, was selling alot, but was also getting undercut very often, every 4 hours or so I would be undercut on around 750-1000 auctions (very annoying, but where theres money, theres competition).</p>
<p>Anyways, I know it is still early to trust the average daily income from the statistics page, but it show me to be making 10k gold a day, thanks for all your info and help into making this possible <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Unfortunatelly I have a great project going on IRL, and will have to take a break from glyph making till this is done, I will be back in business very shortly though <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Trork</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/my-daily-gold-making-routine-in-wow-3-3-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12980</link>
		<dc:creator>Trork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again :)  And yeah, I figured that out - use Auctioneer + KTQ + Skillet + Lil’Sparkies + QA3 - while reading your blogs ;)   am still not getting my pc back today, just called the store and they are still having trouble in fixing it :(
So I guess I will have to wait a bit more then, and mourn the loss of ~30 emblems of frost and a few k gold :(
When my pc is back I will install and setup all the addons, and with that, I have a quick question about auctioneer:
  Will it use data I have scanned from Auctionator? Or should I scan the AH a week or two before I start posting my auctions? [I will most likelly scan it once after I wake up, and again before I sleep while watching some series]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   And yeah, I figured that out &#8211; use Auctioneer + KTQ + Skillet + Lil’Sparkies + QA3 &#8211; while reading your blogs <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />    am still not getting my pc back today, just called the store and they are still having trouble in fixing it <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So I guess I will have to wait a bit more then, and mourn the loss of ~30 emblems of frost and a few k gold <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>When my pc is back I will install and setup all the addons, and with that, I have a quick question about auctioneer:<br />
  Will it use data I have scanned from Auctionator? Or should I scan the AH a week or two before I start posting my auctions? [I will most likelly scan it once after I wake up, and again before I sleep while watching some series]</p>
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		<title>By: Kraklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kraklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be a very interesting jobs, I always thought if I could find a RL industry that has similar traits as the skills and activities used in the WoW Economy it would be my dream job :P
Good luck with your sales, unfortunately someone probably undercut all your glyphs after a day of them being up but you probably sold a good amount of them.
Also, you shouldn&#039;t spend too much time deciding which glyphs to make, use Auctioneer + KTQ + Skillet + Lil&#039;Sparkies, do a glyph scan with auctioneer, then go to KTQ and do /ktq set threshold 10g     or whatever amount you want, which will only make glyphs that are currently going above 10g.
Since the profit margins on glyphs are the same for each one (except 2 ink glyphs, but that is going to change in patch 3.3.3) you can be sure that the profit margin you get will be high as long as you are crafting at &gt;4g profit per glyph.
Also keep in mind your snowfall inks you are getting and factor that into your profits per glyph.
Good luck! keep us updated on your results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be a very interesting jobs, I always thought if I could find a RL industry that has similar traits as the skills and activities used in the WoW Economy it would be my dream job <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck with your sales, unfortunately someone probably undercut all your glyphs after a day of them being up but you probably sold a good amount of them.</p>
<p>Also, you shouldn&#8217;t spend too much time deciding which glyphs to make, use Auctioneer + KTQ + Skillet + Lil&#8217;Sparkies, do a glyph scan with auctioneer, then go to KTQ and do /ktq set threshold 10g     or whatever amount you want, which will only make glyphs that are currently going above 10g.<br />
Since the profit margins on glyphs are the same for each one (except 2 ink glyphs, but that is going to change in patch 3.3.3) you can be sure that the profit margin you get will be high as long as you are crafting at >4g profit per glyph.<br />
Also keep in mind your snowfall inks you are getting and factor that into your profits per glyph.<br />
Good luck! keep us updated on your results.</p>
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		<title>By: Kraklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kraklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only use the &quot;Scan Glyphs&quot; button in glypher as KTQ doesn&#039;t have a way to refresh the current auction house glyph prices.
I guess the same thing can be done by selecting the glyphs category in auctioneer and pressing the play (scan) button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only use the &#8220;Scan Glyphs&#8221; button in glypher as KTQ doesn&#8217;t have a way to refresh the current auction house glyph prices.<br />
I guess the same thing can be done by selecting the glyphs category in auctioneer and pressing the play (scan) button.</p>
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		<title>By: Trork</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/my-daily-gold-making-routine-in-wow-3-3-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12968</link>
		<dc:creator>Trork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pc has been broken since friday, and I started out trying the glyph industry on thursday -last week - wasn&#039;t using many addons to help me. I was using Panda, Lilsparkies Workshop, Bagnon, Auctionator and Altoholic. I didn&#039;t do much research as what to do that would help me that thursday. What I did was purchase many herbs with the help of Auctionator, I made a shopping list with the name of all herbs, I bought around 36 stacks of Tigers Lilly going for 6g a stack 0.o bought around 12  stacks of Adder&#039;s Tongue(18g a stack, the other Adder stacks were at 30g so I skiped those)amongst other Northrend herbs that were being sold at 60 silver or less per unit.
So while I was doing my raids I was milling with that nice macro we all know, and then creating inks. I then did not think of a way to calculate which inks to buy, so I just randomly traded the inks, and with Panda+Lilsparkies, I could see all the glyphs and what they were beeing sold for, so I just went crazy clicking on all the glyphs that were beeing sold for 18+ gold, making around 2-5 of each, and posted them. Also made a few Runescrolls of Fortitude for myself and to sell, a couple of armor+weapon vellums and hunter scrolls.
I wake up next day, and my pc won&#039;t turn on, I have now been 6 days without my pc (will get it back today) and am eager to see how it went. While my pc has been broken, I have been researching the glyph industry on the web and found this blog, which I am greatfull for, I have gotten and written down so many tips its amazing! I can&#039;t wait to get my pc back so I can play on the AH and raid again :)
ps: My RL job is actually very similar to what we are doing here, thus making it a bit easier for me :)  I am a coffee trader, buying green beans from farmers, selling the lots in the NY ICE market, and exporting the green beans overseas for better profit, in your terms it would be coffee flipping :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pc has been broken since friday, and I started out trying the glyph industry on thursday -last week &#8211; wasn&#8217;t using many addons to help me. I was using Panda, Lilsparkies Workshop, Bagnon, Auctionator and Altoholic. I didn&#8217;t do much research as what to do that would help me that thursday. What I did was purchase many herbs with the help of Auctionator, I made a shopping list with the name of all herbs, I bought around 36 stacks of Tigers Lilly going for 6g a stack 0.o bought around 12  stacks of Adder&#8217;s Tongue(18g a stack, the other Adder stacks were at 30g so I skiped those)amongst other Northrend herbs that were being sold at 60 silver or less per unit.</p>
<p>So while I was doing my raids I was milling with that nice macro we all know, and then creating inks. I then did not think of a way to calculate which inks to buy, so I just randomly traded the inks, and with Panda+Lilsparkies, I could see all the glyphs and what they were beeing sold for, so I just went crazy clicking on all the glyphs that were beeing sold for 18+ gold, making around 2-5 of each, and posted them. Also made a few Runescrolls of Fortitude for myself and to sell, a couple of armor+weapon vellums and hunter scrolls.</p>
<p>I wake up next day, and my pc won&#8217;t turn on, I have now been 6 days without my pc (will get it back today) and am eager to see how it went. While my pc has been broken, I have been researching the glyph industry on the web and found this blog, which I am greatfull for, I have gotten and written down so many tips its amazing! I can&#8217;t wait to get my pc back so I can play on the AH and raid again <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ps: My RL job is actually very similar to what we are doing here, thus making it a bit easier for me <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I am a coffee trader, buying green beans from farmers, selling the lots in the NY ICE market, and exporting the green beans overseas for better profit, in your terms it would be coffee flipping <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the quick response! On my server, it seems that it is the other way around. Adder&#039;s Tongue is very hard to find (on the AH), and Tiger Lily / Deadnettle is usually 50% of the Tongues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the quick response! On my server, it seems that it is the other way around. Adder&#8217;s Tongue is very hard to find (on the AH), and Tiger Lily / Deadnettle is usually 50% of the Tongues.</p>
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		<title>By: Kraklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kraklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just buy northrend ones except some recipes such as Armor Vellum 1 (which I make very rarely) takes Alabaster pigments which come from the lowest level herbs and those are always way cheaper.
I&#039;d say 90% of my herbs come from Adder&#039;s/Icethorn and then converted at Jessica Sellers to the other inks I need. Sometimes Tiger Lilly/Deadnettle is cheap enough to buy but I usually only get those at 50-55% the cost of an Adder&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just buy northrend ones except some recipes such as Armor Vellum 1 (which I make very rarely) takes Alabaster pigments which come from the lowest level herbs and those are always way cheaper.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say 90% of my herbs come from Adder&#8217;s/Icethorn and then converted at Jessica Sellers to the other inks I need. Sometimes Tiger Lilly/Deadnettle is cheap enough to buy but I usually only get those at 50-55% the cost of an Adder&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heylo! I love your blog, and it has great amounts of information. I&#039;m a bit new to the Glyph making business, and I was wondering wether you buy all kinds of herbs to supply your glyph making, or just the Northrend ones that you trade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heylo! I love your blog, and it has great amounts of information. I&#8217;m a bit new to the Glyph making business, and I was wondering wether you buy all kinds of herbs to supply your glyph making, or just the Northrend ones that you trade?</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you using glypher and KTQ?  Don&#039;t they do the same thing?</description>
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		<title>By: Kraklin</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/making-gold/my-daily-gold-making-routine-in-wow-3-3-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12580</link>
		<dc:creator>Kraklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support man.
That is the inscription market for ya, when I first entered I was very glued to my alts and doing constant cancelling/reposting until I realized how much of my time it was taking up.
A full cancel/repost cycle for me takes around 30 minutes, I post 5x of every glyphs above 5g 85s. if I pull in around 2,500g/day profit and I want to keep my &quot;gold/hr rate&quot; at around 800-1200g/hr that&#039;d mean I could only do 2 cancel/repost cycles.. since it takes an hour to make 250 glyphs.
That also scales with the prices though, if your glyphs are selling for 15g or 20g+ each then you can definitely put more time into cancelling/reposting.. but if you are sitting by the AH donig cancel/repost on all 3-5g glyphs it may be really lowering your gold/hr.
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoy the blog!
-Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support man.</p>
<p>That is the inscription market for ya, when I first entered I was very glued to my alts and doing constant cancelling/reposting until I realized how much of my time it was taking up.</p>
<p>A full cancel/repost cycle for me takes around 30 minutes, I post 5x of every glyphs above 5g 85s. if I pull in around 2,500g/day profit and I want to keep my &#8220;gold/hr rate&#8221; at around 800-1200g/hr that&#8217;d mean I could only do 2 cancel/repost cycles.. since it takes an hour to make 250 glyphs.</p>
<p>That also scales with the prices though, if your glyphs are selling for 15g or 20g+ each then you can definitely put more time into cancelling/reposting.. but if you are sitting by the AH donig cancel/repost on all 3-5g glyphs it may be really lowering your gold/hr.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoy the blog!<br />
-Will</p>
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