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	<description>Analysis and Discussion of Making Gold in World of Warcraft</description>
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		<title>By: Furioer</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/market-watch/gathered-items-prices-rising-botter-ban-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-48048</link>
		<dc:creator>Furioer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demand for herbs has gone up as people are trying to stockpile all variety of inks for new leveling since Ink of the Sea will not be exchanged for lower ink! This plus the Glyph market requiring 3 times the mats for glyphs has created a higher demand. 

Combine this with a shorter supply created by banning even a few bot farmers per server, and the general desire to avoid farming, reduces supply. 

Each aspect of this causes prices to rise, combined it causes them to spike. However, the price of materials is still acceptable and profit&#039;s are simply there for the more wary buyer. 

Stockpiling 300 of each ink type will remain profitable as you dump them on the AH for new leveling scribes. Expect a sales price at 15-20g per ink if you keep it listed for the first month of the Expac. With roughly 8 types of ink at 300 per, you can expect 18,000g in sales for roughly a 5000g investment since the high end cost of inscription is on the glyphs, not on then ink!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demand for herbs has gone up as people are trying to stockpile all variety of inks for new leveling since Ink of the Sea will not be exchanged for lower ink! This plus the Glyph market requiring 3 times the mats for glyphs has created a higher demand. </p>
<p>Combine this with a shorter supply created by banning even a few bot farmers per server, and the general desire to avoid farming, reduces supply. </p>
<p>Each aspect of this causes prices to rise, combined it causes them to spike. However, the price of materials is still acceptable and profit&#8217;s are simply there for the more wary buyer. </p>
<p>Stockpiling 300 of each ink type will remain profitable as you dump them on the AH for new leveling scribes. Expect a sales price at 15-20g per ink if you keep it listed for the first month of the Expac. With roughly 8 types of ink at 300 per, you can expect 18,000g in sales for roughly a 5000g investment since the high end cost of inscription is on the glyphs, not on then ink!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ularin</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/market-watch/gathered-items-prices-rising-botter-ban-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-32250</link>
		<dc:creator>Ularin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be correct but I was wondering if the gems were being sold low to get the gold quickly because they were stolen from a hacked account.

I only store raw gems. My operation is not large and keeping the gems raw allows me to stack them which I cannot do with the cut product. This also allows me to stock &quot;X&quot; amout or raw material which can be cut into several possible finished products. It is much like the &quot;Just in time&quot; philosophy used by many manufacturers of finished products.

However, it would seem to me that many of the stratigies suggested here would require a large stock of cut gems. If an account like that was hacked then the hackers would be trying to strike a balance between selling as quickly as possible while still trying to maximize gold return.

There is not any way that anyone purchasing these gems would be able to know this unlike those that purchase gold. Of course, even though much of the gold sold for real $$ is realized by farming and selling the mats there is still a portion of it that is the result of theft from hacking. People who purchase gold to take the easy way out are feeding these leeches just as those in real life who profit from the misfortune of others by buying and selling stolen merchandise to avoid paying the full price for it in hard earned $$.

As you say, this site contains a wealth of information, ideas and tips. It is up to each of us to determine what will best suit our needs and adapt. I have learned a great deal here and continue to learn. I often wish I was smart enough to understand it all but I am happy to use what I can and I have passed the URL on to several friends who have benefited themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be correct but I was wondering if the gems were being sold low to get the gold quickly because they were stolen from a hacked account.</p>
<p>I only store raw gems. My operation is not large and keeping the gems raw allows me to stack them which I cannot do with the cut product. This also allows me to stock &#8220;X&#8221; amout or raw material which can be cut into several possible finished products. It is much like the &#8220;Just in time&#8221; philosophy used by many manufacturers of finished products.</p>
<p>However, it would seem to me that many of the stratigies suggested here would require a large stock of cut gems. If an account like that was hacked then the hackers would be trying to strike a balance between selling as quickly as possible while still trying to maximize gold return.</p>
<p>There is not any way that anyone purchasing these gems would be able to know this unlike those that purchase gold. Of course, even though much of the gold sold for real $$ is realized by farming and selling the mats there is still a portion of it that is the result of theft from hacking. People who purchase gold to take the easy way out are feeding these leeches just as those in real life who profit from the misfortune of others by buying and selling stolen merchandise to avoid paying the full price for it in hard earned $$.</p>
<p>As you say, this site contains a wealth of information, ideas and tips. It is up to each of us to determine what will best suit our needs and adapt. I have learned a great deal here and continue to learn. I often wish I was smart enough to understand it all but I am happy to use what I can and I have passed the URL on to several friends who have benefited themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Banzar</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/market-watch/gathered-items-prices-rising-botter-ban-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-32134</link>
		<dc:creator>Banzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe yea, after I posted that last night, I read a lil more and found that thats a strategy that is even mentioned on this site :) drives people away from the market so they get tired of doing it for no profit almost and makes them quit doing it, atleast for a while. Im sticking with it though, as I think you should. The prices will get back up, im kinda watching mine and today i have very few items less then 3g.. so i think the fall will slow down some :) I love this site.. so much good info.. btw, i never even tried making money wiith my glyphs till i saw the addon video about what addons Will uses to make money with glyphs, I downloaded all of them and its a whole nother world now :) I love all the tips and stuff this site has..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe yea, after I posted that last night, I read a lil more and found that thats a strategy that is even mentioned on this site <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  drives people away from the market so they get tired of doing it for no profit almost and makes them quit doing it, atleast for a while. Im sticking with it though, as I think you should. The prices will get back up, im kinda watching mine and today i have very few items less then 3g.. so i think the fall will slow down some <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I love this site.. so much good info.. btw, i never even tried making money wiith my glyphs till i saw the addon video about what addons Will uses to make money with glyphs, I downloaded all of them and its a whole nother world now <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I love all the tips and stuff this site has..</p>
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		<title>By: Ularin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ularin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you should mention that. I have noticed someone lately posting gems for 101G when the market value is significantly higher. Not only that but they posted that same price for a number of different gems.

This price is very close to the cost for raw gems so, like you I have purchased some of the product but there is a limit to how much of that you can do if they keep posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you should mention that. I have noticed someone lately posting gems for 101G when the market value is significantly higher. Not only that but they posted that same price for a number of different gems.</p>
<p>This price is very close to the cost for raw gems so, like you I have purchased some of the product but there is a limit to how much of that you can do if they keep posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Banzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been having trouble just lately making money on my server with inscription because there are a couple of people that insist on no matter what the price for certain glyphs are, putting them up for 2g 99s 99c... this goes from 50g glyphs that i am making that on steady straight to 3g.. Theres another person using this way to make money, I beleive him to be a bot, because usually seconds after i undercut him, he undercuts me and hes online 20 hours out of each day. He is not the one doing the price from 50g to 3g tho. I have tried buying out all of these and it works sometimes, but none the less there is another post by this person. I think they are using auctioneer batch post at a price set at 2g99s99c or something. Any tips on getting past this? Its basically making the glyph market on my server pointless.. I have them on my friends list hoping im there when they get on some day soon... but i havent seen them :( I dont know what to do anymore, its driving me crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been having trouble just lately making money on my server with inscription because there are a couple of people that insist on no matter what the price for certain glyphs are, putting them up for 2g 99s 99c&#8230; this goes from 50g glyphs that i am making that on steady straight to 3g.. Theres another person using this way to make money, I beleive him to be a bot, because usually seconds after i undercut him, he undercuts me and hes online 20 hours out of each day. He is not the one doing the price from 50g to 3g tho. I have tried buying out all of these and it works sometimes, but none the less there is another post by this person. I think they are using auctioneer batch post at a price set at 2g99s99c or something. Any tips on getting past this? Its basically making the glyph market on my server pointless.. I have them on my friends list hoping im there when they get on some day soon&#8230; but i havent seen them <img src='http://www.wowconfidential.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I dont know what to do anymore, its driving me crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: MihmetCrido</title>
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		<dc:creator>MihmetCrido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past months the price of alot of raw materials have gone up, but some of the wierd things I&#039;ve noticed on my server is that some people have way to much gold and they are able to clean out the entire market of certain items and dominate it as they whish. This might not be a problem you think, but when it comes to items like enchanting mats and uncut gems its sick and sometimes people don&#039;t even bother gemming/enchanting their new items because of the prices (Which nerfes the progresson in pve and pvp). Also since alot of bots have been banned (presumably) alot of items are in a very short supply and it varies around 50% of that items value over just a few hours since everyone is undercutting and reposting all the time. Atm my servers economy is TOTALLY ruined. If you wan&#039;t gold, you have to either do dailes or farm. I was spending 3h on the AH yesterday just to have an example how bad it is (I got Enchanting, JC, LW, Tailoring and constantly advertising in trade) and I was able to make a profit of 700g (IN 3 HOURS) and I bought  mats for over 4k gold. The average profit margin of items are somewhere around 3% which sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past months the price of alot of raw materials have gone up, but some of the wierd things I&#8217;ve noticed on my server is that some people have way to much gold and they are able to clean out the entire market of certain items and dominate it as they whish. This might not be a problem you think, but when it comes to items like enchanting mats and uncut gems its sick and sometimes people don&#8217;t even bother gemming/enchanting their new items because of the prices (Which nerfes the progresson in pve and pvp). Also since alot of bots have been banned (presumably) alot of items are in a very short supply and it varies around 50% of that items value over just a few hours since everyone is undercutting and reposting all the time. Atm my servers economy is TOTALLY ruined. If you wan&#8217;t gold, you have to either do dailes or farm. I was spending 3h on the AH yesterday just to have an example how bad it is (I got Enchanting, JC, LW, Tailoring and constantly advertising in trade) and I was able to make a profit of 700g (IN 3 HOURS) and I bought  mats for over 4k gold. The average profit margin of items are somewhere around 3% which sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Interslice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interslice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past month or so herb prices on Burning Legion (US) have doubled, it makes a lot of sense that this is a result of the banhammer being brought down on botters.  It sucks for my bottom line but is good for the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past month or so herb prices on Burning Legion (US) have doubled, it makes a lot of sense that this is a result of the banhammer being brought down on botters.  It sucks for my bottom line but is good for the game.</p>
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		<title>By: GrimFaust</title>
		<link>http://www.wowconfidential.com/market-watch/gathered-items-prices-rising-botter-ban-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-19450</link>
		<dc:creator>GrimFaust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems as if the bot farmers are dumping more ore than herbs. The other day I bought about 300 stacks of saronite @10g ea. I&#039;ve also constantly been able to get a good supply of saronite for under 12.50g a stack. Herbs however, they seem to be undersupplied. I saw a posting of about 90 stacks of Adder @ 20g a stack and snatched them up because that&#039;s pretty cheap for the recent prices. As for other herbs, there&#039;s barely been any posted in bulk and for under a gold a unit.

Maybe The botters are focusing more on mining now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as if the bot farmers are dumping more ore than herbs. The other day I bought about 300 stacks of saronite @10g ea. I&#8217;ve also constantly been able to get a good supply of saronite for under 12.50g a stack. Herbs however, they seem to be undersupplied. I saw a posting of about 90 stacks of Adder @ 20g a stack and snatched them up because that&#8217;s pretty cheap for the recent prices. As for other herbs, there&#8217;s barely been any posted in bulk and for under a gold a unit.</p>
<p>Maybe The botters are focusing more on mining now?</p>
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		<title>By: Talon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last couple weeks I was actually back to selling raw mats for profit rather than craft or stockpile. Today I logged in and planned to sell off a load of Herbs I had on 1 of my famrers and I was semi shocked kinda when I noticed just today the market for herbs CRASHED. Well I guess I could buy everything and hope for a rebound. Or plan on holding 2-3 Tabs in my storing vault for CATA powerlevels. Noble cards have evenned out in price deck/Trinket. I did make abour 1.5k gold off buying decks and getting cards made then reposting. I guess I&#039;ll figure something out or see what happens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last couple weeks I was actually back to selling raw mats for profit rather than craft or stockpile. Today I logged in and planned to sell off a load of Herbs I had on 1 of my famrers and I was semi shocked kinda when I noticed just today the market for herbs CRASHED. Well I guess I could buy everything and hope for a rebound. Or plan on holding 2-3 Tabs in my storing vault for CATA powerlevels. Noble cards have evenned out in price deck/Trinket. I did make abour 1.5k gold off buying decks and getting cards made then reposting. I guess I&#8217;ll figure something out or see what happens</p>
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		<title>By: Baiin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baiin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can speak about the herb market on Vek&#039;nilash cause it&#039;s not really where I make my gold, but the ore market is the same as always. If anything, I&#039;m finding more deals than ever. I just bought 122~20 stacks of Saronite for 12g each. I lawled, prospected, and turned a nice 3k profit off the gems. And still have yet to do anything with the uncommon gems. On a side note, the gold-sellers / hackers are infesting my server atm. Anyone else seeing the same thing happening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can speak about the herb market on Vek&#8217;nilash cause it&#8217;s not really where I make my gold, but the ore market is the same as always. If anything, I&#8217;m finding more deals than ever. I just bought 122~20 stacks of Saronite for 12g each. I lawled, prospected, and turned a nice 3k profit off the gems. And still have yet to do anything with the uncommon gems. On a side note, the gold-sellers / hackers are infesting my server atm. Anyone else seeing the same thing happening?</p>
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