Between WOTLK and Cataclysm the whole glyph market changed completely, we went from a commodity market where glyphs were constantly being bought up as players glyphed for different pvp/pve situations to a market where the sales are now much lower as each character needs to buy glyphs only once but prices are higher.
On this blog I share all my gold making strategies and which ones are generating the most income. This used to be an easy task as I was able to export my beancounter data into excel then use my excel mastery to sort it out in pivot tables/filters to make some pretty graphs and go about disecting the numbers in a post.
Unfortunately my previous method of exporting to excel doesn’t work anymore this has become more difficult, however I recently stumbled on an addon called My Sales which has been collecting data on my glyph sales in the past 2 weeks or so.
I hope that by seeing a list of my best selling glyphs you can ensure you are crafting these as well and pulling in profits, another method of figuring out which glyphs to craft is to use www.wowpopular.com and only crafting the most popular glyphs (although they could be the ones with the most undercutting and competition too)
Highest Profit Glyphs in Cataclysm
The first figure I’d like to share is which glyphs have given me the most profit per glyph, or the glyphs that sell the highest per unit on average. It would be safe to assume that these glyphs are the ones with the most demand and not much competition, or the current supply isn’t enough to cover the demand.
As the list shows above, my highest profitable glyphs are Glyph of Shockwave, Glyph of Hammer of Righteous, and Glyph of Ice Barrier. These glyphs are selling for 166-179g each, and given my costs are 55g each, I’m pulling in a profit of 111 – 123g each sale.
Best Selling Glyphs in Cataclysm
In this next list I’ll sort my glyph sales by quantity sold, keep in mind that I don’t sell any glyphs below 58g. When I look at the glyphs on this list I have to pay certain attention to the ones that sell in very high quantities and a high price, these are glyphs that are at risk of going out of stock and I may not be posting enough at a time to reap in the maximum profit.
Glyph of Word of Glory and Glyph of Berserk are glyphs that seem to sell consistently high and I sell a lot of them so I’ll take a look and make sure I’m not selling out of them before having the chance to post up more stock in my next cycle.
Glyphs that Earn Me The Most Gold
The last list we are going to look at are the glyphs that I’ve earned the most revenue from, so this is a combination of the quantity sold and the money per sale.
This list shows an example of something like Glyph of Explosive Shot – in 6th/7th place on the other charts (neither near my highest profit per sale nor highest quantity sold) you can see that it ranks 2nd at the glyph that’s earned me the most revenue.
Are these lists consistent with the sales you’re experiencing on your servers?
I wish I was on your server mate
I can probably get to 125g or so max for my glyphs. I have my limit set to 75g and quite often most of the ones above dip below it.
My main ones sold are for Paladins, Resto Druids, Mages and Locks. You are by far and away my favourite gold making site and one of the reasons why I started doodling myself.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but your highest priced glyphs are not trained–I think they are learned? I do my Northrend Alchemy every day and still get new glyphs that way. Is there another way to learn new glyphs? If not, I’ll continue doing what I’m doing and maybe get lucky and learn one or two of these pricier ones.
Oh, and I echo Smudger–glyph market on my server seems depressed.
From the comments and the OP’s prices, I must be lucky. On my server cata cinderbloom/stormvine seem to hover around 5g (sometimes as low as 3.5g on weekends) per (the better herbs are always higher than the 7.5g value to make the same cost glyphs). At that price, including the sales from inferno ink (min 100g sale but sell fast at 150g), i make glyphs for 37g and set my min price to 50g. That’s not including the extra profit made from cheaper herbs via Northrend and Outland mats.
Herbs on my server are about 5g with Inferno selling for about 175g. If my calculations are right, that makes glyphs cost 8g. If herbs went under 4.25g (they do), milling alone turns a profit.
I put a threshold at 150g and sell 30-40 different types per day. That being said, volume is dropping like a stone since more and more people have hit 85 and have already customized. Profit per hour is great but tedious.
My math might be wrong as well, but your 8g glyphs seems wrong. That implies that it takes 1.5 herbs to make the 3 inks for an entire glyph.
According to this site, Cinderbloom (the cheapest, most common cata herb) drops 5 blackfallow ink per stack. Meaning 25 inks for 100 herbs. Divided by 3 gives us the glyphs per 100 herbs. Rounding in favor of more profit, that means 8 glyphs per 100 herbs, making it cost 12.5 herbs per glyph. 12.5 times the herb cost should give the glyph cost (not including paper – 50s is trivial, so I ignore it).
After all the math (of which I am not a fan, haha), herbs at 5g a piece means a glyph costs 62.5 gold before inferno ink.
According to this site, you should also have received 2.5 inferno ink form that 100 herbs. My min sell price is 100g. So I deduct 250g from the cost of those 100 herbs. Effectively halving the cost of our herbs from 500g for 100 herbs down to 250g for 100 herbs.
Including sales of Inferno ink at 100g each, that brings glyphs down to 31.25g. Hence my minimum price of 50g. Though this will change when less people want inferno inks. Hopefully by then herb prices have dropped a bit. I’d hate to have to mix in prices of cheaper herbs and have to figure out my average costs… I just know that, without worthwhile rare inks, for a glyph to have a crafting cost of 31.25 gold (same as cata herbs with inferno inks), herbs from Northrend and Outland need to cost 2.5g a piece.
I’m just glad that as demand drops on my server, other crafters appear to be dropping their glyph selling as well. Keeping my glyphs in demand. Hoping to get enough capital to buy a few more multi mount dragon vial’s for guildies and alts before the market dies out.
Put your Inferno Inks at 175g and see how much your glyphs cost. When I drop mine to 100g, I get the same price per glyph you do. That’s the beauty of milling on my server, that act alone can turn a profit without crafting a single glyph. Even at 100g per Inferno, you could sell the Blackfallow ink at 15g per and turn a profit. This gives people who don’t have all the glyphs a chance to make some cash.
Ahhhh, thats your trick. Makes sense now.
Hmmm, I prepared at least 10 of all the glyphs my scribe knew (missing quite a few from the book so that could be an issue right there). It cost me a maximum of 12g to craft them all. I’m lucky to sell any, regardless of what I post them at.
Thing is, you have to sell the right glyphs. If they are trained or used for levelling inscription they simply won’t sell for a profit. But learned through research and books you do have a greater chance of selling them – it just depends on the demand.
If everyone has run out of Northrend crafted glyphs then I must be in a good place – for my researched / learned glyphs, at least. But it is very, very slow going. I have been trying to offload my stockpile since Cata went live and it has been an uphill battle. It seems as if prices simply haven’t adjusted for the new herb prices; or there are just too many scribes who stockpiled pre-Cata; or perhaps there just isn’t a demand for most glyphs.
Whatever the case, thanks for the post on what is profitable. I backed out of the glyph market when Cata hit but still have hundreds to offload, unfortunately. Even setting my fallback to 50g and my threshold to 12g hasn’t yielded much in the way of sales for any but a select few.
Yea, you really need to have all the researched glyphs, and those learned from the Book of Glyph Mastery. The trained glyphs are the ones people use to level inscription with their own herbs. Since it is their own herbs, its 100% profit and therefore they can ALWAYS beat you in price. They are just hoping to make more than vendoring them. When I make a glyphs, its only to a total of 3 each. Except for the change over to Cataclysm where we expected (and got) a TON of sales. During that time i made a total of 7 of each glyph. Even today, I still have 7 of a quite a few glyphs. ALL of them are the ones you learn early in the training process. But its just far easier to make entire sets of them. since they rarely sell, they never have to be remade. And even today i make average of 5k a day, more on weekends.
Im strugging on my server to make anywhere near the profit i used to. Avg price for cheapers herb is 5 gold but I havent been selling the infernos. I have seen avg prices drop for most glyphs now under 50 gold.
I am also still struggling to get ktq to make the right list of items i need to create. I set my threshold to 60 gold, use the auctioneer configure / glypher scan and then run /ktq queue 5 glyphs. I frequently get glyphs my banker already has more than 5 of and also frequently get ones selling for considerably below 60 gold. Any help with this would be awesome.
Someone in an earlier thread pointed me to working ktq and aws links but im still having the same problem.
I would suggest deleting your configs for KTQ/AWS/Altoholic in your WTF folder. That’s where your settings are saved (the Interface folder is just the working files).
Make sure you logon with all your alts that might have glyphs and check your bags/mail.
The threshold is based on last scan, not average price. If there are no glyphs on the market, you will queue the glyph. If there are overpriced glyphs on the market, you will queue the glyph. There’s nothing you can do about that really, other than keeping a manual note of what glyphs you do not want to make and removing them from your queue if they show up.
Finally, sell your Embers or Inks, whichever sells for more. Embers in stacks of 2, inks alone. If you have too many BF inks, figure out if 10 are worth more or less than a single Inferno and sell those too.
Personally, I don’t craft more than 30 different types of glyphs per day, so I move my threshold around that number.
I’m doing fairly selling glyphs. I’m making anywhere from 500-2000 a day. The only issue is that you have to watch your auctions constantly. I generally only sell about 10 types of glyph at a time and only those that sell for over 100 each. Every morning before work i login and list all 3 of each for all 10. Around noon i login on my ipad and check to see how many people have undercut me and add 3 more to those that have been undercut. I do this again after work. The problem with selling these i the demon is so low and people constantly undercut you.